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xdscast
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Wed May 12, 2004 3:38 pm
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I just hope this "service games" guy can pull through for me with a self booting disc that doesnt require anything but a console and controller to play.
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lordnikon
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Wed May 12, 2004 4:08 pm
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Have you been able to speak with him to know your getting what your paid for? He sure isn't making himself very available for comment. I hope you get what you paid for. I hate seeing gamers get ripped off.
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Einhander
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Wed May 12, 2004 10:05 pm
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I don't want to sound like a jerk, but I have thought that this deal seemed a little shady since the beginning. Anyone who read my comments in the original thread knows that...

Anyway, people, before you shell out real life cash, make sure it's all on the up and up. If PA turns out to be a non-ripped self-booting game, then that's great, but the whole thing makes me nervous.

I don't think that anyone (including SErvice GAmes) should have to pay money for something that was never released to the public. I believe that the only people who should make money off of this product are the team at Sega who worked their asses off to make it.

But I do hope it works out for those who decide to give money for a copy.
 
icepick
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Thu May 13, 2004 2:03 am
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Seriously. I don't mean to sound rude either, but; All of this money is going somewhere, and chances are good that it isn't going to anyone that it should be... Speaking farther up the line, towards whoever received $1500 for a GD-R that shouldn't be out in the open in the first place... right? I don't know about the details of this transaction, but I'm guessing that some jerk somewhere has a whole lot of money for simply being a greedy backstabbing disgrace to all things decent. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong!

This is practically a perfect example of why piracy is bad... A lot of hard work is paying off for someone that doesn't deserve it at all, with pretty much none of it going towards where it belongs. Sure, "a true artist only wants their work to be enjoyed," but, the big thing here is that $1500 of enjoyment is going to a con artist.

I'm not directing any of this towards "ServiceGames," and, this is probably my most shot-off post of 2004... What can I say; Einhander got me thinking. Cool

Anyway, I'm interested in this $20 for fancied-up leaked game deal... As soon as anyone receives one from ServiceGames' batch, I'd be interested in hearing about the packaging quality. I'm not too interested in the game, however... It doesn't sound like my kind of game, plus, I'm extremely wary of viruses and other malicious code (ever since losing practically half of my hard drive once). I'd pay $20 for very nice cover art and a blank CD-R (or coaster), though. I'm big on presentation, and if this game's case and such look nice, I wouldn't mind getting one to put on my shelf.
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jhorto1
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Thu May 13, 2004 5:49 am
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Assuming it's true that a few guys had to scrape together the funds to buy this from someone (and the money is just so that they can recoup some of it) I have no problem contributing $20 to the effort.
I don't think the deal was shady either because otherwise he wouldn't have stayed on top of things giving updates and such.
I may be too trusting, but I'll keep the faith for at least a week or two. The last I heard he was planning on mailing them out yesterday.
I'm currently dloading the game anyway, (as I always knew I'd be able to do) so if I lose my money I can consider it a fairly inexpensive life lesson.
 
xdscast
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Thu May 13, 2004 12:28 pm
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Im aware of the shadyness of it, but in the end Im doing it for the benefit of everyone in here. Ill let you know if I recieve anything, so far I havent heard back from him after sending an E mail with question a couple days ago and the money yesterday.

Play wait and see
I'll take the risks for you guys.
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kingofgrills
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Thu May 13, 2004 1:21 pm
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I would again like to thank ServiceGames for all of his team's efforts to bring Propeller Arena to us, the DC community. Personally, I don't think he would have subjected himself to the level of scrutiny he has received for this project for this long if it wasn't really in the works.

Servicegames announced the aquisition of the GD-R early on (March 4th, to be exact), and he outlined the plan for it's release from the beginning. Everything went according to plan except for the premature leak within this past week. With the way events have transpired, I feel pretty confident that this is the real deal. Otherwise, how would he have known that Propeller Arena, which was probably the most sought after unreleased game over the past couple of years, would suddenly be cracked and available on the net?

ServiceGames shelled out around $1,500 in order to get the previous owner of the GD-R to give it up. Given the time, expense and effort that has gone into this release, he certainly did not do this as a money making venture. He planned on sending nice copies with cd and case artwork to those who donated to the project, knowing it would be openly released within a matter of a day or two. He stated all of this early on.

Granted, Servicegames took a risk by buying the GD-R and then sending it to others to rip, but he took that risk to make the game available for all of us. He's not profiting from this. If anything, he's got to be taking a loss on the deal, but he's doing that to open a new chapter in the Dreamcast's legacy. I know there are doubters still, and I don' t expect to change any of that, but when you play your copy of Propeller Arena, take a moment to think of how that all became possible.

Since my order was in prior to Sunday, I should theoretically receive my copy either late this week or sometime next week. If someone doesn't report on the quality of the package prior to then, I'll let you guys know what arrived.

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essej
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Thu May 13, 2004 4:03 pm
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has servicegames ever come forward and said whether or not they would still accept donations for a gussied-up copy? as soon as these get into other peoples' hands, i'm going to want to send my donation in. i'm just too nervous/cautious to drop it sight unseen.
 
ultrapro
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Thu May 13, 2004 4:06 pm
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yes he has, he is still accepting donations, it was said by him in another post, the long sticky one (oooh uur) at the top of the lounge. he has a shortage of discs and wont send more out till later nxt week i believe if you havent ordered before saturday or something to that effect but yes in answer to your question
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Metal_4evr
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Thu May 13, 2004 4:44 pm
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The original seller of the GD-R was offered upwards of $1500 from collectors who would not rip it but he decided to sell it to people who were willing to rip it so that we could all have the chance to play this excellent game. He is also an ex-Sega employee (or so he says) and gave the Assembler board some incite into the PC port(s) of Sega games to PC (like Sega Rally 2 which he has claimed to have worked on).
 
icepick
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Thu May 13, 2004 9:36 pm
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Metal_4evr wrote:
The original seller of the GD-R was offered upwards of $1500 from collectors who would not rip it but he decided to sell it to people who were willing to rip it so that we could all have the chance to play ...

That's interesting to hear, thanks for the scoop. I have mixed feelings about this, now... On one hand, it sounds like a somewhat noble thing to do, but on the other hand, if they really did work for Sega, then I have to question their ethics since they went ahead and stole something important from their employer (unless it was given as a keepsake, which I doubt), and then agreed to go ahead and take $1500 for something that they most likely received (or stole, as the case may be) for free.

I don't mean to make this sound so ugly, but that's the way that it could be. However, like I said, I have mixed feelings about it... maybe the original seller has some surprise bills... maybe they got into an accident... maybe the Mafia are onto them... there could be tons of less-despicable reasons for this whole thing, and of course, what's done is done. Still, some might ask the original seller why they're so up for accepting money if all that they want is to give us all a chance "to play this excellent game," instead of asking ServiceGames. Yea, I know this is old, but I had to throw it out there.

Anyone think it's cool that ServiceGames' Propeller Arena for Dreamcast shipped on the first day of E3 2004? If you said that exact line to any DC fan not regularly visiting these forums, they'd consider it to be the biggest shocking news ever. Cool

kingofgrills wrote:
If someone doesn't report on the quality of the package prior to then, I'll let you guys know what arrived.

That's cool to hear, and I would definitely appreciate it, kingofgrills.

There's one thing that I'm worried about right now though, and I'm not going to say it so as not to invite it... but now that a version is leaked onto the 'net, it's only a matter of time before swindlers spring into action. I'm going to suggest that anyone seeing anyone contributing to anyone other than ServiceGames, direct them to ServiceGames... better there than someone that doesn't have a $1500 deficit, know what I'm saying?
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TheMytho
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Thu May 13, 2004 10:27 pm
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You know, I find it funny no one has mentioned the quality of the game itself.....

-Mytho
 
icepick
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Fri May 14, 2004 1:40 am
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TheMytho wrote:
You know, I find it funny no one has mentioned the quality of the game itself...

With regard to the actual game, or the leaked+hacked side-effects? I might not have my facts straight, but I'm under the impression that it's by Sega, more specifically AM2, and that should be all anyone needs to know. Other than that; I've noted people going both ways about it... some say it's one of the best DC titles released, others say it's really not that impressive or fun at all. I'm guessing that it's one of those "depends on who you ask" deals, with a general 50/50 like/not like popular opinion ratio. I'm pretty sure that it would be an instant hit if it had online multiplayer features the way that it was meant to, and I myself would be about seven times more interested in it if it did, but as for now, I'd be only marginally more interested in playing it than Floigan Bros or Hoyle Casino, if you catch my drift.
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xdscast
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Fri May 14, 2004 1:43 pm
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icepick wrote:
TheMytho wrote:
You know, I find it funny no one has mentioned the quality of the game itself...

With regard to the actual game, or the leaked+hacked side-effects? I might not have my facts straight, but I'm under the impression that it's by Sega, more specifically AM2, and that should be all anyone needs to know. Other than that; I've noted people going both ways about it... some say it's one of the best DC titles released, others say it's really not that impressive or fun at all. I'm guessing that it's one of those "depends on who you ask" deals, with a general 50/50 like/not like popular opinion ratio. I'm pretty sure that it would be an instant hit if it had online multiplayer features the way that it was meant to, and I myself would be about seven times more interested in it if it did, but as for now, I'd be only marginally more interested in playing it than Floigan Bros or Hoyle Casino, if you catch my drift.


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Metal_4evr
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Fri May 14, 2004 1:44 pm
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Personally, I like it. Single player is pretty simple but multiplayer is where it's at.
 
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