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brourke228
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Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:02 pm
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The modem is Conexant HDA D330 MDC v.92 Modem. This is an internal modem. I'm on a laptop by the way its Dell Inspiron 1520.

Build-essential is already the newest version. I think i installed it earlier while trying to get this driver to install.

I typed kernel-source into synaptic and found and installed linux-source-2.6.27 I think this is what you meant?
If it is , it doesn't seem to have changed anything.

I went back and tried gnome-ppp again but still no luck. I went through the list of devices hitting detect on each one /dev/modem , /dev/ttyS0 , etc. It just says no modem was found on your system.

GNOME PPP: STDOUT: Editing `/dev/null'.
GNOME PPP: STDERR: Modem Port Scan<1>: S0   S1   S2   S3   
GNOME PPP: STDOUT:
GNOME PPP: STDOUT: Scanning your serial ports for a modem.
GNOME PPP: STDOUT:
GNOME PPP: STDOUT:
GNOME PPP: STDOUT:
GNOME PPP: STDOUT: Sorry, no modem was detected!  Is it in use by another program?
GNOME PPP: STDOUT: Did you configure it properly with setserial?
GNOME PPP: STDOUT:
GNOME PPP: STDOUT: Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial
GNOME PPP: STDOUT:
GNOME PPP: STDOUT: If you still have problems, send mail to <wvdial>.



Still no luck installing this driver either its running into the same errors i copied into the last post.
 
Kbuzz
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Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:57 am
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hm, this a bit beyond me.

Modems aren't the most supported things with linux. Especially software modems.

I'd try asking linuxant for some support. Or going with a different modem.

Hardware modems are the best. Serial modems will always work and are probably the best option. But my usb one works too. USRobotics makes a few linux ready modems as well.

Sorry I couldn't help beyond that. Maybe linuxant will offer some advice.
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brourke228
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Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:45 pm
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NVM!

I found an auto-installer on the linuxant site here: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/downloads-installer.php
For whatever reason their site was down the other day but it works now so i downloaded that and it works !

Now I can finally start setting this up. Gnome-ppp detected my modem as /dev/ttySHSF0 after it installed the driver.


Im Connected!!! And it actually WORKS. Thank you for all the help!

I just have a few other questions:
1. Is there any way to make mgetty start and answer the call using a gui? Like a shorcut or something that just sends the command for me
2. The example command on Ryochan's guide to start mgetty is this:
sudo mgetty -D /dev/ttyUSB0 -m '"" ATM0'

It says in the guide that the "M0" disables the sound from the modem. I would prefer to hear the modem so I can sync it up easier.
So do I instead just use type this?
sudo mgetty -D /dev/ttyUSB0 -m '"" AT'



PSO Works
Quake III and Starlancer both work great after disabling "default-asyncmap" .

I can't seem to get 4x4 Evo online though it connects then gets an error when trying to authenticate saying theres a problem with my isp.
 
fallout
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:36 pm
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Woo congrats .

I was yust about to post the following, might be of help for other peopel facing similiar problems.



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It's a shame that notebooks are not widely supported, because of oem's putting exotic hardware into it without much specifications available or drivers by distributors..
I made a few searches, and it's still a mess with modem drivers.

Because you own a dell hope is not lost yet, as they support linux better then other manufacuturers but tag as beta and unsuported.

Dell offers a support page for linux
http://linux.dell.com/

And supplys linuxant modem drivers for free here, and isos for custom dell ubuntu releases aswell
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/
Heres one could try
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/

Dell offers you to download there own set of iso images of ubuntu
They should come with more preinstalled dell specific drivers..
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/intrepid/iso-images/

If the dell modem driver works for you you can unlock it to run at full speed, please read through the following bbs post
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015673&page=1
And heres the wiki entry
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=hsfmode m-7.80.02.03full-dellhybrid.tar.bz2



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1. Is there any way to make mgetty start and answer the call using a gui? Like a shorcut or something that just sends the command for me


You could create a bash script with your code, place it on your desktop and double click it. And im sure there exist guis for sending modem commands


#!/bin/sh
#answer_dial.sh

gksudo mgetty -D /dev/ttyUSB0 -m '"" AT'



If you wan't to use your ubuntu for more then a dail-in server you may want to visit this link
http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
http://www.knowliz.com/2008/09/20-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
http://www.getdeb.net/


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Kbuzz
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:46 pm
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awesome! So glad I could help.

Now we can help each other out with troubleshooting :p


I'm able to connect to pso regularly but I often time out or freeze at shiplist. How has your experience been?

About Ryochan's command. I dont think those options are needed. I'll have to test some more.


I'm sure there's a way to do all of this with a GUI but the kind of people who make guides like this tend to use such methods I guess. Keep in mind that the guide we're going from was made for netbsd!

I'm keeping my char online for now since it takes more than a few connect tries to get a solid connection. See you around I hope!
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brourke228
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:15 pm
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fallout wrote:
Woo congrats .

I was yust about to post the following, might be of help for other peopel facing similiar problems.



Quote:

It's a shame that notebooks are not widely supported, because of oem's putting exotic hardware into it without much specifications available or drivers by distributors..
I made a few searches, and it's still a mess with modem drivers.

Because you own a dell hope is not lost yet, as they support linux better then other manufacuturers but tag as beta and unsuported.

Dell offers a support page for linux
http://linux.dell.com/

And supplys linuxant modem drivers for free here, and isos for custom dell ubuntu releases aswell
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/
Heres one could try
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/

Dell offers you to download there own set of iso images of ubuntu
They should come with more preinstalled dell specific drivers..
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/intrepid/iso-images/

If the dell modem driver works for you you can unlock it to run at full speed, please read through the following bbs post
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015673&page=1
And heres the wiki entry
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=hsfmode m-7.80.02.03full-dellhybrid.tar.bz2



Quote:
1. Is there any way to make mgetty start and answer the call using a gui? Like a shorcut or something that just sends the command for me


You could create a bash script with your code, place it on your desktop and double click it. And im sure there exist guis for sending modem commands


#!/bin/sh
#answer_dial.sh

gksudo mgetty -D /dev/ttyUSB0 -m '"" AT'



If you wan't to use your ubuntu for more then a dail-in server you may want to visit this link
http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
http://www.knowliz.com/2008/09/20-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
http://www.getdeb.net/



Thank You !!!! This is extremely helpful. Because as of right now I am just using the evaluation version. I couldn't get the driver to compile with the version I downloaded, so I ended up just using the autoinstaller on the linuxant site and I am running at 14kbps which is creating immense LAG. I will be downloading the oem version you just linked me to ASAP.



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I'm able to connect to pso regularly but I often time out or freeze at shiplist. How has your experience been?

About Ryochan's command. I dont think those options are needed. I'll have to test some more.

On PSO I am able to get past the shiplist no problem, but after joining a team it seems to just disconnect the line after a while. Especially when there are others on the team and not just myself. I seem to have better luck when I create the team myself however. Part of this problem I think is that I am using the evaluation version of the driver for my modem which runs at 14kbps, this is creating a lot of lag. After I install the full driver that fallout posted a link to, then I should be running at the max 33kbps.

Quake III works perfectly, just lots of lag, again due to conn. speed.
Starlancer does as well I think. I'm not positive though, because I did not see any servers in the server list when I connected. I think its just that there aren't as many people on there though because its not multi-platform. However, I was able to create a game myself with no issues.
4x4 Evo again, is the only game I've had major issues with thus far.

I'll let you know what my results are as far as PSO goes after I install that oem driver. Probably won't get around to it until tomorrow; I got a lot of homework to do.


>I was able to install the OEM linuxant driver no problem thanks again for the help. If anyone else is using a dell computer with a conexant modem the package to use is this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=hsfmode m-7.80.02.03full-dellhybrid.tar.bz2

The package automatically configures everything for you.
 
Kbuzz
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Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:19 pm
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Was talking to some guys on IRC about this.

Apparently since pso has a max hopcount, this causes a lot of problems for everybody, and probably even more for us pc-dc server users.

I'm pretty close to ruling out port-mapping as the culprit here since a high hopcount is more likely what is causing the extremely long loading for things.

Since other users don't seem to have such a hard time connecting directly to a main ip, the problem on my end would likely be between the PC and DC. Everytime the hopcount exceeds the maximum set by pso, the packets are dropped and it retries... leaving me in limbo.

So we have that to think about. DreamcastTM mentioned that we should log the packets and see what's there.
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Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:39 pm
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You can also use commands like "tracert" in the command console to get the hopcount to a specific address. The "ping" command will get the average return time as well.
 
brourke228
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Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:47 pm
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I was just about to update my last post. After installing the "full speed" driver for my modem PSO actually seems to be running pretty well. I've been in a game with 3 other people for about an hour rackking up my exp. I did have my pc freeze for some reason at one point which actually ended up making the dc freeze lol. But i restarted I dont know what that was all about. But yeah, no lag. This is literally 2x as fast as the connection i had before.

Let me know if you have any questions because I'm amazed myself at how well this is running right now. Its PSO v2 by the way.
 
Kbuzz
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:08 am
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are you always able to connect like that? You don't have to retry the connection a few times?

perhaps a usb modem isn't the way to go?

could you post your /etc/ppp/options and /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config ?
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brourke228
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Yeah I've never had any issues with actually connecting except with 4x4 Evo, but I haven't tried that game since I changed the driver. The only time it will mess up obviously is if i don't sync the connection up fast enough. But after I'm connected it seems to be running very stable. I think the problem before was just the connection speed.

What type of computer are you using (laptop or desktop)?
If you got a desktop maybe try using a PCI modem. On my setup back home on my old computer I've got it running win98 with a PCI 56k modem i found lying around and that setup works pretty well. Although after trying linux for this I'm definately liking this better. I'll probably end up reformatting that computer when I have my break. Its much simpler to get it running. That is once your modem is recognized....

The kernel I'm using is 2.6.27-7-generic. I don't think I updated anything from the original ubuntu 8.10 package.

Also, it hasn't disconnected on me at all since my last post. Only issue I have is the on-screen keyboard lol. I'm gonna have to buy a dc keyboard at some point.

>>Just gonna update this once more I'm going to sleep, but PSO showed me as being connected for 3h 8m , no disconnects!

options and mgetty.config are both direct copy+paste from ryochans guide
options :
debug
login
default-asyncmap
require-pap
ms-dns 192.168.1.1
proxyarp
ktune


mgetty.config


#
# mgetty configuration file
#
# this is a sample configuration file, see mgetty.info for details
#
# comment lines start with a "#", empty lines are ignored


# ----- global section -----
#
# In this section, you put the global defaults, per-port stuff is below


# set the global debug level to "4" (default from policy.h)
debug 4

# set the local fax station id
fax-id 

# access the modem(s) with 38400 bps
speed 38400

# use an alternate issue file, to avoid being bitten by linuxlogo
issue-file /etc/issue.mgetty

#  use these options to make the /dev/tty-device owned by "uucp.uucp"
#  and mode "rw-rw-r--" (0664). *LEADING ZERO NEEDED!*
#port-owner uucp
#port-group uucp
#port-mode 0664

#  use these options to make incoming faxes owned by "root.uucp"
#  and mode "rw-r-----" (0640). *LEADING ZERO NEEDED!*
#fax-owner root
#fax-group uucp
#fax-mode 0640


# ----- port specific section -----
#
# Here you can put things that are valid only for one line, not the others
#

# Zoom V.FX 28.8, connected to ttyS0: don't do fax, less logging
#
#port ttyS0
#  debug 3
#  data-only y

# some other Rockwell modem, needs "switchbd 19200" to receive faxes
# properly (otherwise it will fail with "timeout").
#
#port ttyS1
#  speed 38400
#  switchbd 19200

# ZyXEL 2864, connected to ttyS2: maximum debugging, grab statistics
#
#port ttyS2
#  debug 8
#  init-chat "" \d\d\d+++\d\d\dAT&FS2=255 OK ATN3S0=0S13.2=1 OK
#  statistics-chat "" AT OK ATI2 OK
#  statistics-file /var/log/statistics.ttyS2
#  modem-type cls2

# direct connection of a VT100 terminal which doesn't like DTR drops
# ("direct" meaning "*no* *modem*".  NEVER enable "direct yes" on modem lines!)
#
#port ttyS3
#  direct y
#  speed 19200
#  toggle-dtr n


The only thing with the options file is like the guide mentions if you have that default-async map it doenst work in some games, but that doesn't apply to PSO. I tried to keep everything as default as possible when i followed the guide. The onlything different really is the hardware specific options.ttySHSF0 file.

If you need me to post a log or something let me know. Just tell me what command to use for it because I probably won't know.
 
Kbuzz
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:54 am
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brourke228 wrote:
Yeah I've never had any issues with actually connecting except with 4x4 Evo, but I haven't tried that game since I changed the driver. The only time it will mess up obviously is if i don't sync the connection up fast enough. But after I'm connected it seems to be running very stable. I think the problem before was just the connection speed.

What type of computer are you using (laptop or desktop)?
If you got a desktop maybe try using a PCI modem. On my setup back home on my old computer I've got it running win98 with a PCI 56k modem i found lying around and that setup works pretty well. Although after trying linux for this I'm definately liking this better. I'll probably end up reformatting that computer when I have my break. Its much simpler to get it running. That is once your modem is recognized....


Very interesting. I'm wondering what it is that's causing the hopcount to jump. Again, planetweb works perfectly. Maybe some modems will cause a greater hop count?

I'm using a desktop

I'm keeping an eye out for a serial modem as they have the best compatibility, but the price seems to have gone up on them. PCI modems are a bit trickier. I'd like one that's hardware but then again you had some good luck with yours. I guess I just need to find one that is supported by the same drivers. Some of the better hardware pci modems are about the price of a bba!
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brourke228
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I mean its worth a try. You can probably find a PCI modem lying around or at a friends house. Just take one off an old PC. Make sure it is a 56k modem though. Like everyone seems to have dial up modems still but I don't know anyone who still uses dial up. I don't think you need any high-end modem or any thing like that. The modem i used was just a regular OEM modem i found lying around in a drawer.

The PCI modem I'm using on the other computer is a Lucent modem btw.
 
Kbuzz
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the problem is that most pci modems are winmodems and wont work in linux. Usually only hardware modems are linux capable.
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brourke228
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Okay, I'm starting to understand what you're talking about now. It appears in order to get a "win modem" work in linux, it needs a proprietary driver. Which my modem appears to have. So it would make sense that a large number of them do not, as they're designed to work on windows.

However, after reading up a bit, it seems that not all PCI modems are in fact "win modems".

Example: http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-56K-Call-Waiting-Modem/dp/B0000513QL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronic s&qid=1264531580&sr=1-1

Granted, If you do have a win modem lying around I wouldn't rule it out immediately. See if you can find some proprietary drivers for it online.

Also, you might want to read this: http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/PCImodems.html
That site has a list of some linux compatible PCI modems.

And this site goes into some detail on win modems in linux: http://www.linmodems.org/

Of course the first thing I would do is identify the modem and check the manufacturer's website if you do have an extra modem lying around.
 
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